Producers That Don't Colour or Chill-Filter

[Mark C]

From the other thread:

Bladnoch
Springbank
Bruichladdich
Glencadam
Kilchoman
English Whisky Co.
Douglas Laing
Signatory
Burn Stewart (malts)
Isle of Arran
Glenglassaugh
Compass Box
Wemyss (single casks only)
Highland Park


Add to this thread and I'll update this first post list.

[Mark C]

Glenglassaugh too.

[The Craw]

Cadenheads, but owned by Springbank.

Not sure about this but the likes of Wemyss, Duncan Taylor, BBR, Dewar Rattray and Adelphi don't seem to use colour or chill-filter for the vast majority of their products.

Also that 'trouble-maker' John at Compass Box.

I'm sure a certain Mr Murray would be a useful advocate to call upon to gain some momentum

[mongo]

does ardbeg add colour? i think their's are all unchillfiltered, but i'm not sure about colour.

if we're adding indies, twe's single malts of scotland and elements of islay are all non-chillfiltered/non-caramelled i believe.

[Tim F]

if we're adding indies, twe's single malts of scotland and elements of islay are all non-chillfiltered/non-caramelled i believe.

Correct, same for Port Askaig & all our other bottlings. We'll never add caramel or chillfilter.

[laddie teun]

Duncan Taylor
Whisky Agency
Daily Dram
most indies actually, not?

[Pete Smoke]

Can we have that list in alphabetical order please.

Don't forget Longrow and Hazelburn. How about Kilkerran/Glengyle?

[karlejnar]

Benriach
Benromach
Glendronach
Kilkerran (included under Springbank as producer?)

Then there are procucers/distilleries with some of their bottlings without chill filtering and/or colouring, but that would result in a list that includes most if not all of them.

I suggest that the distilleries are added in brackets after the producer, e.g. Springbank (Springbank, Longrow, Hazelburn, Kilkerran) and Burn Stewart (Bunnahabahain, Deanston, Ledaig, Tobermory)

[Willie JJ]

It's never as clear as we want it to be I think. Signatory have a range that they bottle at 40/43% which is presumably CF and some other indies may have bottles that suffer the same fate.

[laddie teun]

so we specify the range that is un-chill and un-colored?

[MacDeffe]

Some companies, I can specific mention Wemyss, has a majority of bottlings without colour or CF, but in the US I saw a range of theirs at 40% chillfiltered (can't recall if they were coloured or not)

Mark from DTC (who hates e150) says they would NEVER bottle anything with e150 in, but they have a very few costumers who wants it. So if they do it, it doesn't come with their own label.

End of the day, it's a business and the costumers have the deciding word. You and me can as costumers go out and buy the "right" product. I tend to buy mainly IB's at casks strength and its hard to find colour in them...


Steffen

[Peat Sampras]

Abhainn Dearg surely does not do such bad things!

[Willie JJ]

so we specify the range that is un-chill and un-colored?

I think for the list to have any meaning it will have to be that way.

Abhainn Dearg surely does not do such bad things!

They've hardly had time, but I suspect its not part of their plan.

[Mark C]

Not sure about this but the likes of Wemyss, Duncan Taylor, BBR, Dewar Rattray and Adelphi don't seem to use colour or chill-filter for the vast majority of their products.

Wemyss unfortunately do with their vatted malts.

[Mark C]

Not sure about this but the likes of Wemyss, Duncan Taylor, BBR, Dewar Rattray and Adelphi don't seem to use colour or chill-filter for the vast majority of their products.

Wemyss unfortunately do with their vatted malts.

so we specify the range that is un-chill and un-colored?

I think for the list to have any meaning it will have to be that way.

Well, there's one producer we can start with. Wemyss' single cask bottlings are all free from colouring and aren't chill-filtered.

[Malt-Teaser]

Can we add one more criteria to "real whisky" please?
That of naming.

In which case Wemyss and SMWS should be excluded immediately.

[Mark C]

Can we add one more criteria to "real whisky" please?
That of naming.

In which case Wemyss and SMWS should be excluded immediately.

Do you mean stating which distillery? I believe that sometimes this isn't possible for contractual reasons but I do know that Wemyss will be putting the distillery name on a new range coming out soon!

[Malt-Teaser]

No, I mean the dumbing down to lowest common denominator names such as "Ferrari Screech" "Truncheons (whatever it was)" "Sandy Seaweed" Bonfire Embers" ...... etc etc etc...

Then of course this last 'Hollywood' series from SMWS........ something about John Wayne's bum on a saddlle wasn't it?

[C57]

No, I mean the dumbing down to lowest common denominator names such as "Ferrari Screech" "Truncheons (whatever it was)" "Sandy Seaweed" Bonfire Embers" ...... etc etc etc...

Then of course this last 'Hollywood' series from SMWS........ something about John Wayne's bum on a saddlle wasn't it?

I don't think a silly name stops the whisky being real, unchillfiltered, uncoloured etc ??

[peaty001]

does ardbeg add colour? i think their's are all unchillfiltered, but i'm not sure about colour.

Glenmorangie/Ardbeg declare non-chill filtered on most of their whiskies 46% and above.
No such statements apply to whiskies below 46% on their sites.
We should conclude that e150a is added to the whisky.

[karlejnar]

does ardbeg add colour? i think their's are all unchillfiltered, but i'm not sure about colour.

Glenmorangie/Ardbeg declare non-chill filtered on most of their whiskies 46% and above.
No such statements apply to whiskies below 46% on their sites.
We should conclude that e150a is added to the whisky.

No absolutely not! You can't conclude that a whisky is coloured just because it isn't declared on the bottle.

[C57]

Maybe not but if you have a strong aversion to caramel, it's the safe route to take in order to avoid buying whiskies with caramel added

[peaty001]

No absolutely not! You can't conclude that a whisky is coloured just because it isn't declared on the bottle.

These statements are at present part of marketing therefore what is omitted is just as important as what is stated.
E.g. compare the blurb on Glenmorangie standard bottle along with La Santa. The lack of statement in relation to non chill filtering for the standard bottling seems quite significant. The Whisky producers and their marketing departments are not silly, they know what they are saying. If they can make an attractive claim for their whisky then they will. Whether it is the oldest, highest, lowest distillery or some other nuance that has questionable significance in relation to the taste of the whisky. It is a ruse that could just sell a few more bottles from a marketing point of view.
So the fact that it is absent from a range of malts that covers both everyday drinkers and the cognoscenti is significant.
Remember the Campaign for Real Whisky is an effort to establish clear labelling, an attempt to get out from under the selective marketing blurb. If the label is unclear you can apply a cautious sceptical logic regarding what may be inside.

[Pete Smoke]

Read all, there is a claim from Ardbeg and Highland Park that no E150a is added anymore.

http://whiskystuff.blogspot.com/2009/09 ... ut_05.html

[Douglas]

Read all, there is a claim from Ardbeg and Highland Park that no E150a is added anymore.

http://whiskystuff.blogspot.com/2009/09 ... ut_05.html

Interesting reading. Thanks for the link, Pete.

I guess it shows what we kind of know - that some malt producers who are pitching their product at a more whisky-literate market are already sensitive to the issue of colouring.