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Northern Isles and more

Postby Peat Sampras » 09 Jun 2010, 21:33

Hi Folks,

I fancy a big round trip to Scotland including a trip to the northern Isles in late August. I've already got some ideas (i.e. Northmavine, Unst) and I sure have checked Tattie Heid's website. I'd still be glad for some tips (what to visit, where to stay, what to avoid) by y'all.

The Idea is to head up north from Dundee to Wick (passing all the distilleries), then to visit Orkney and the Shetlands and to see Poneys, Bonxies and cliffs ;) Then, It'll be the western isles, Oban area, Islay, Campbeltown and Arran and back to Dundee. I've been to Lewis, Barra, Islay and the wee toon before but however, your precious advice is very welcome!

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Re: Northern Isles and more

Postby Mr Tattie Heid » 09 Jun 2010, 23:05

My best advice is not to try to see too much in too short a time. I've been to Orkney a number of times and am contemplating a return, mainly to see some of the outer islands I haven't done yet, and when I start drawing up itineraries, it ends up being two weeks in Orkney alone, which I can't really do. So if I do go, it'll be one or two islands with an eye to returning another year for the others.

That said, you can cover all the major sights in either archipelago in three or four days. Hell, you can do it in two, if don't mind rushing all over, but you won't really soak in any of the flavor of the islands. Frankly, I think you're better off to do either Orkney or Shetland with the time you have.

Orkney is for antiquities, Shetland is for scenery. Hopefully someone else can tell you about birds, if you're interested--I'm always there too late in the season for anything much other than gannets.

I always stay in Lerwick in Shetland--it's the only town of any size, with a handful of decent restaurants and pubs. In Orkney, Kirkwall is the main town, centrally located and with better services, but I really like Stromness--it has more of the northern isles character and charm.

Mr Picky sez note that it's Orkney and Shetland, not "the Orkneys" or "the Shetlands".

And finally, Peat, have a look at the cosmetic makeover I've done on the 2007 and 2008 journals. You kicked that off (lot of damn work, thank you very much). Last year's will join them as soon as revisions are complete.
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Re: Northern Isles and more

Postby Peat Sampras » 10 Jun 2010, 09:41

Mr Tattie Heid wrote:My best advice is not to try to see too much in too short a time. I've been to Orkney a number of times and am contemplating a return, mainly to see some of the outer islands I haven't done yet, and when I start drawing up itineraries, it ends up being two weeks in Orkney alone, which I can't really do. So if I do go, it'll be one or two islands with an eye to returning another year for the others.

That said, you can cover all the major sights in either archipelago in three or four days. Hell, you can do it in two, if don't mind rushing all over, but you won't really soak in any of the flavor of the islands. Frankly, I think you're better off to do either Orkney or Shetland with the time you have.

Orkney is for antiquities, Shetland is for scenery. Hopefully someone else can tell you about birds, if you're interested--I'm always there too late in the season for anything much other than gannets.

I always stay in Lerwick in Shetland--it's the only town of any size, with a handful of decent restaurants and pubs. In Orkney, Kirkwall is the main town, centrally located and with better services, but I really like Stromness--it has more of the northern isles character and charm.

Mr Picky sez note that it's Orkney and Shetland, not "the Orkneys" or "the Shetlands".

And finally, Peat, have a look at the cosmetic makeover I've done on the 2007 and 2008 journals. You kicked that off (lot of damn work, thank you very much). Last year's will join them as soon as revisions are complete.


Thanks for the Input and I find the changes to your page are a real improvement, it's a lot more "reader-friendly"...

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Re: Northern Isles and more

Postby Peat Sampras » 25 Jul 2010, 00:40

Aye, friends. My plan has developed to an Island Marathon. I'll be visiting Orkney (Mainland, Lamb Holm, Glimsholm, Burray and South Ronaldsay), Shetland (Mainland, Yell and Unst), Western Isles (Lewis, Berneray, North Uist, Benbecula, Grimsay, South Uist, Eriskay to Barra), Slate Islands (Seil and perhaps Easdale and Luing), Islay (via Colonsay), Jura, Campbeltown and Arran... 20+ Islands to visit, 8 Islands to sleep on in a bit more than 2 weeks... Island man, I'm getting close :D

Distillery wise it will be Dalwhinnie, Tomatin, Teaninich, Dalmore, Invergordon, Glenmorangie, Balblair, Clynelish and Pulteney on the way up, Scapa and HP on Orkney, Abhainn Dearg on Lewis, Oban on the way down, then some or all of the Islay Distilleries as well as Jura, then Springbank, Glen Gyle and maybe Scotia and finally Arran... way to go...

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Re: Northern Isles and more

Postby Mr Tattie Heid » 25 Jul 2010, 04:54

I think that's way too much in too little time. But if you like to travel that way, that's your prerogative.
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Postby Peat Sampras » 28 Jul 2010, 21:05

Mr Tattie Heid wrote:I think that's way too much in too little time. But if you like to travel that way, that's your prerogative.


I know it's quite a schedule but I've done such trips before and enjoy it, it's not relaxing, more of a rally... but I like motorsports and this is the homecountry of Colin McRae (RIP), so :iwbrnt:
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Re: Northern Isles and more

Postby JamesC » 17 Aug 2010, 21:06

How many days are you spending on Islay to be able to take in all of the distilleries? Unless of course you don't plan on taking all of the tours. I found it difficult to see any more than two in a day due to the tour times.
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Re: Northern Isles and more

Postby Pete Smoke » 17 Aug 2010, 21:31

JamesC wrote:How many days are you spending on Islay to be able to take in all of the distilleries? Unless of course you don't plan on taking all of the tours. I found it difficult to see any more than two in a day due to the tour times.

Peat doesn't do 'tours' strictly speaking - he plays by his own rules. :lol:
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Re: Northern Isles and more

Postby C57 » 17 Aug 2010, 21:34

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Re: Northern Isles and more

Postby Peat Sampras » 30 Aug 2010, 22:00

Back from the Islands...

I did one tour, Springbank... other than that, I sneaked around without breaking any laws or trespassing :D On Islay, I've been to all distilleries as well as Jura and Arran. I don't see the point in doing distillery tours because the process is the same at all distilleries. I prefer to soak up the atmosphere on the places. Sometimes you get a glimpse of the stills or other production areas without doing a tour, sometimes you won't. Other new distilleries I visited were Highland Park and Scapa - the latter only from far because they don't have a visitor center. I understand they do tours upon arrangement though. I visited other Islands without distilleries as well, and had a good time. I recommend Unst, Lewis (has Abhainn Dearg), Barra, Seil, Easdale. Cheers!
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Re: Northern Isles and more

Postby Mr Tattie Heid » 30 Aug 2010, 22:50

Peat Sampras wrote:I don't see the point in doing distillery tours because the process is the same at all distilleries.

But the tours are not; nor are the particular facilities, guides giving the tour, other people touring, etc. I've certainly done some tours that were worth no more than a walk around the plant, but it's a rare tour I don't learn something. Often enough it's that some point of the process isn't the same. And of course, you are taken into areas you can't wander into on your own--stillrooms, warehouses, and so on.

That said, I have my own limit of tolerance for tours--two or three in a five-week holiday is plenty. Outside that, photographing a few distilleries from the outside is fine. There are many interesting things to do and see in Scotland other than distilleries.
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Re: Northern Isles and more

Postby Peat Sampras » 30 Aug 2010, 22:59

Mr Tattie Heid wrote:
Peat Sampras wrote:I don't see the point in doing distillery tours because the process is the same at all distilleries.

But the tours are not; nor are the particular facilities, guides giving the tour, other people touring, etc. I've certainly done some tours that were worth no more than a walk around the plant, but it's a rare tour I don't learn something. Often enough it's that some point of the process isn't the same. And of course, you are taken into areas you can't wander into on your own--stillrooms, warehouses, and so on.

That said, I have my own limit of tolerance for tours--two or three in a five-week holiday is plenty. Outside that, photographing a few distilleries from the outside is fine. There are many interesting things to do and see in Scotland other than distilleries.


I agree, Mr Tattie Heid. But at the risk of missing some great tours, I (as you) prefer to not waste my precious time (if you know my thight schedule) in hearing the same stuff time and time again but I prefer to see the fantastic stuff Scotland has to offer besides distilleries... and most of all, I'm not keen on having a blether with tourists from all around the globe (God bless them) even if I must say that I met some most agreeable individuals on my trip...
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Re: Northern Isles and more

Postby malt_boy » 31 Aug 2010, 17:21

Sounds like a bit of a feat! I'm going to Speyside next week, visiting Glenfarclas and Aberlour. Only two but I may take a leaf out of your book and go whisky wandering to nearby distilleries. Camera at the ready as well! :)

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Re: Northern Isles and more

Postby Peat Sampras » 31 Aug 2010, 20:52

malt_boy89 wrote:Sounds like a bit of a feat! I'm going to Speyside next week, visiting Glenfarclas and Aberlour. Only two but I may take a leaf out of your book and go whisky wandering to nearby distilleries. Camera at the ready as well! :)

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I did a little walk around BenRiach and Longmorn last year, with the permission of the guard. I recommend! :)
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